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Silent_chaos

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Played around with the electronics a bit

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Silent_chaos

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Final pics.1 thing I am not comfortable with is the Front height. any advice that makes it even with the rear?on full throttle the front wheels are spinning a bit in the air due to Torque. don't want that to happen :/

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rampage idiot

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Silent_chaos said:
Final pics.1 thing I am not comfortable with is the Front height. any advice that makes it even with the rear?

on full throttle the front wheels are spinning a bit in the air due to Torque. don't want that to happen :/
Not to be a smart ass but are those fronts on the front? I am playing around with hpi springs now I will let you know what works best! mine sits up a little but no where near as high as yours that's why I asked if you had fronts on the front
 
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The MT shocks are a bit longer than the X-series. No need for any preload. I use limiting cables on mine.

 

rampage idiot

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Man I don't understand why it is sitting that high though, I thought mine was bad but that is high! way high. For now the limiting straps will work, like I said I am working on a solution I will let you know by this weekend on what I've come up with.(sound familiar)LOL
 
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There is about 1/2 inch of preload. Return the spring collar to the top of the shock and it will sit better.

 

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RCDAD said:
There is about 1/2 inch of preload. Return the spring collar to the top of the shock and it will sit better.
Will do that.

Would it be better if I preload the rear springs about 3/4" -1" and keep the fronts free of any preloading?

Front Chassis height from ground is 8.9cm

Rear chasis height from ground is 6 cm
 
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Silent_chaos

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I removed the front preload.

I adjusted the rear, 1" preload on the rear and the rear height is slightly higher than the front's.

final height.

-front: 8.9cm

-Rear: 9.2cm

I think this is cool, the buggy is looking fierce and I have a ground clearance of about 9cm
 

rampage idiot

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Silent_chaos said:
not sure if this is a joke :rolleyes: :p
Most definitely a joke I know this can be frustrating at times, those measurements look good it is strange how the problem is really only in the front because the overall length of the shocks is about an inch longer all the way around, but man you have that thing looking really good and the true test will to see how it handles, like I said before thanks to rcdad hpi springs work on the mt shocks and they make soft, medium and hard after I swap them out I will let you no what I find
 

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rampage idiot said:
Most definitely a joke I know this can be frustrating at times, those measurements look good it is strange how the problem is really only in the front because the overall length of the shocks is about an inch longer all the way around, but man you have that thing looking really good and the true test will to see how it handles, like I said before thanks to rcdad hpi springs work on the mt shocks and they make soft, medium and hard after I swap them out I will let you no what I find
Thanks man! :D

sure let us know.

also any updates on your built ?
 
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Silent_chaos

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I usually set the preload so the suspension arms are as close to being level as possible. That's the ideal setting.
you mean adjusting the springs so that the car is leveled to the same ground clearance on both front and rear end of Chassis?
 
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Silent_chaos said:
Would it be better if I preload the rear springs about 3/4" -1" and keep the fronts free of any preloading?

Front Chassis height from ground is 8.9cm

Rear chasis height from ground is 6 cm
You want to keep the Dogbones and CVDs as close to level as possible. If they are at an angle, you will get more wear and breakage.
 

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RCDAD said:
You want to keep the Dogbones and CVDs as close to level as possible. If they are at an angle, you will get more wear and breakage.
Can you please tell me how many cm are the front and the rear part of the chassis above the ground of your xb?

also, I do not understand how you measure the "keeping them leveled"

because if you lift with the front part of the chassis ( 2 front wheels in the air, rear wheels still touching ground), the suspension arms will fall down in a symmetrical way (at this stage, the suspension arms are Not parallel with respect the ground).

If you pull your hand and drop the 2 front wheels to the ground ( you now have 4 wheels touching the ground), the front part of the Chassis is STILL KEPT HIGH (again the suspension arms are STILL Not parallel with respect the ground).

Now, if you press the front part of the chassis downwards in a way that the suspension arms become parallel to the ground, the chassis will remain at the parallel position and will not bounce back.

So I do not know hwo to judge height and measure "leveling" :/

is it by dropping it free fall 5cm above ground ( so that it takes it natural position)?

OR

pressing downwards until arms are parallel? (since they remain that way)

OR

Pressing Downwards Till the end and then releasing to see at which level they Auto-bounce back at?
 
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rampage idiot

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Silent_chaos said:
Thanks man! :D sure let us know.

also any updates on your built ?
Have been waiting for parts working mostly on suspension every thing else is pretty much done! Waiting on my OBR motor and just sent body out to get done!!!!! Can't wait!!
 
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Silent_chaos said:
Can you please tell me how many cm are the front and the rear part of the chassis above the ground of your xb?also, I do not understand how you measure the "keeping them leveled"

because if you lift with the front part of the chassis ( 2 front wheels in the air, rear wheels still touching ground), the suspension arms will fall down in a symmetrical way (at this stage, the suspension arms are Not parallel with respect the ground).

If you pull your hand and drop the 2 front wheels to the ground ( you now have 4 wheels touching the ground), the front part of the Chassis is STILL KEPT HIGH (again the suspension arms are STILL Not parallel with respect the ground).

Now, if you press the front part of the chassis downwards in a way that the suspension arms become parallel to the ground, the chassis will remain at the parallel position and will not bounce back.

So I do not know hwo to judge height and measure "leveling" :/

is it by dropping it free fall 5cm above ground ( so that it takes it natural position)?

OR

pressing downwards until arms are parallel? (since they remain that way)

OR

Pressing Downwards Till the end and then releasing to see at which level they Auto-bounce back at?
I'll measure my chassis when I get home. Although, this number will vary according to tire size.

When I said level, I just meant the Dogbone and CVD should be parallel to the ground. They obviously don't stay parallel as the suspension moves.
 

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