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XSC biggest piece of crap I've ever bought

jacep

Junior Member
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8
I just wanted to let people know my experiece so fare with my Rampage XSC. To give you some history I currently have in my stable a HPI Baja 5B, 5 savages (XL down to the old school .25's), Losi LST, several 10th scale cars, and some ofna/jammin cars. I would hope the I have an ok idea of what abuse these cars can take.


I recieved my Rampage XSC yesterday and was quite impressed at first site. This very soon after changed. I finaly completed my first tank of gas on the machine and had more time working on it then driving it. Here is what I managed to break durring the first tank of gas:


Body broke in half


front body mount


front and rear bumpers


front left a-arm


front hinge pin


at this rate I'll be averaging about $100 or more in parts per tank of gas. Keep in mind this was driving very very very very mild in comparison to what I do with the savages, and Baja. I don't think the rampage was every meant to see dirt.


Here are a few things I would recommend for newer models


Plastic: I've never seen anything so brittle in my life. This goes for bodies to a-arms. Its like you are using acrylic instead of polycarbonate on the body, and I have no idea what nylon crap that is being used on the a-arms.


Hinge pins: If you are going to turn down the center sections of the hinge pins to save weight do so with a higher grade of steel or at least harden the steel after. It bends way too easy.


Wheel nuts: run a sereted or a tighter nyloc nut I lost 3 wheels during the 1st tank


Shocks: tighten the shaft bushings. There is over 1/2" of side to side play at the end of the shock shaft


Shock towers: have more height settings. the car only has about 2" of clearance, and with the chassi hitting the ground you still have over 1/2" of stroke left in the shock.


sell the car in kit form. This way you at least know the car was assembled right.


The only thing that I think china has nailed so fare is the engine. I've burned up, modded, and used several zenoah ORC's and Cy's and this china engine seems to be holding its own with them.


My brother also purchased an XSC at the same time as me and all his problems would require another post.


anyways thanks all for reading just wanted to share my luck so fare with the Rampage line up. I run a cnc shop so I'll start showing some pics as I get the upgraded parts off the machine.
 

92 vert

Senior Member
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242
Location
Dundee Illinois
That is a nice first post...

a buddy of mine bought a 5b after years of owning smaller scale...

on our first day at the track after numerous broken parts I informed him that you cant drive a 1/5th like a smaller scale and expect it not to break..in the end he sold it and to this day thinks the baja is garbage..

The first tank should be a part throttle run so how is it possible to break all that??

No offense but I don't believe it...I pounded my old XT which is the same truck and never broke a single part..something dosent add up..

sorry.
 
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rampagemt

Senior Member
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2,557
Location
wisconsin,usa
I couldnt agree more there is no way all that broke when your engine needs to get broken in. No offense but I think the xsc could use a better driver
 

krebidoux

Senior Member
Messages
162
i've had lots of problems with mine also but it was bearings, rims for the most part. i've beat the snot out of it and never broke an arm or even the wing mount for that matter. yes the x series does need some hop ups to make it better but all and all it's a good car.
 

bob c.

Senior Member
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239
Location
Port Orange Florida
+1 vert I pound the devil out of my xt and the ony thing I have found so far is the wheel barings went quickly and I lost the set screw from the drive cup..gotta be driver error no offense..
 

BertR

Senior Member
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1,674
Location
Shoshone,Idaho
Dude !!! I call bullshit on this.... To do that much damage on your first tank and yes I said first tank! it does not belong in your hands ....And if you had a 5b you would have more knowledge of the break in process and how a vehicle this size should be handled during said time. Back to the damage part !!! You have broke more parts in 1 tank than I have in 9 months of bashing.

Please post pics of this xsc I want to see it
 
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I am in agreement with BertR on this on. LOL

No way a previous 5th scale owner could of had so much trouble unless he drove it off a cliff. LOL
 

rookie101

Senior Member
Messages
375
Location
Alberta, Canada
Yeah that seems a bit unreasonable for damage. I've jumped my XBE off a quarter pipe repeatedly with no damage.
 

rcgasser

Senior Member
Messages
2,383
Location
Atlanta, GA
WOW I have over 10 5th scales and have not broken that much on all cars combine and I race every weekend!!!! No way but the engine holds up good and this is just after the first tank LOL yea right!!!! I can not wait to see the pics he promised. He made sure to say that he drove it very very very mild thats a joke.
 

jacep

Junior Member
Messages
8
Hey guys sorry I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone on here. I'm just slimply stating my experience so far with the Rampage. Here are some pics of the car. I just built the pipe and intake this morning. As for my baja abuse me and my buddies always hit the skate parks and bmx tracks. Mine and my friends baja's have landed on there lids, front arms, rear arms, rear bumpers... numerous times from 10-15 feet high on concrete and have lived and held up far better then the rampage so far. I don't think the Rampage has seen over about 4 feet of air so far. With the savages we are hitting jumps at 40+mph. They're flying 15-20 feet high and over 30-40 feet long. Very seldon do we break parts on them and yes they land every which way you can imagen. My big savages (xl's) weigh in at around 13lbs, my rampage 23lbs, and my baja is around 26. The biggest problem I have with the baja's are the rear diffs, dog bones, and trying to control it being 2wd it doesn't hook up the best. Yes I have broken several arms, shocks, and several other parts on the baja, but after 10 times the abuse. I need to clarify all my broken parts were broken at different times. There was not 1 big crash that broke everything. I'm from utah and the tempature was about 45 degrees which doesn't help the plastic, but it should'nt kill quality materials.As far as break in goes the only time I run into major issues before I mod the engine is with the glow engines. My two stroke history is this. We have been building, and racing world record holding 2 stroke atv's and sleds for over 15 years. We currently hold numerous ATV sand drag records. I've built several billet goped cylinders (zenoah G43, and CY46). Our ATV engines never see any break in time before the race or dyno. The bikes are not built to be able to do so. We just rebuild and update the motors as needed. That is my plan with the Rampage. When I lose the cylinder/ piston I'll just update it to something bigger like the OBR 36.5cc engine. keep in mind maintenance is a lot great sometimes when doing this.Anyways I'll keep you posted on the progress of the car.thanks

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alfred e numan

Senior Member
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Welcome to the forum! - sayy- nice pipe! duct tape works wonders on the bodies- now r-c dad knows why I have not ordered a new body from him-- yet. lol. the throttle hung up on the thunderbolt today -- the railroad tie was faster than my kill switch finger- I do keep a decent stock of parts- shes repaired and ready.-- The xb? - it takes a beating. If it has wheels or wears a skirt - you gonna have troubles with it- -- Heck- as good as that tig welded pipe looks- sell them, and spend the money on replacement parts--- have a good one-- A. Numan.
 

GTS 666

Senior Member
Messages
1,091
Location
AUSTRALIA New South Wales.
In your first post you stated that it was your first tank and listed all the parts that you had broken. Now you say the parts were broken at different times I can't follow. Anyway hope you enjoy? Welcome.
 

Ryneito

Senior Member
Messages
191
Location
Greeley Colorado
That skid plate has more then 1 tank worth of abuse on it.

Thats a nice pipe!! Let us know when we can make orders..lol
 

blak__jak

Senior Member
Messages
483
Location
amsterdam ohio
he must have gotten a cat made on monday the day after the chinese new year. oh well, sorry to hear of your trouble but don't judge them all on your experience. as you can tell by the other posts most of us feel redcats hold up quite well. in fact i can't say that any r/c that i have ever owned would or could stand up to what i put mine though. just saying i don't work for redcat so i'm not trying to sell you on them but i haven't broke that much stuff on both of mine put together in quite a few tanks. hey welcome to the forum!!!
 

jacep

Junior Member
Messages
8
I'm slowing starting to get things figured out (I hope). I made some new shock towers, hardened heavy duty hinge pins, baja wheel adapters, modded the engine, and ordered some billet front arms from redcat along with a few other broken parts. The parts should be here tomorrow so I can go bashing some more and find out if any of this helps the car out. Here are some more pics. BTW the proline trenchers are about 1.5" taller and right around 2lbs heavier for the set of 4.

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jacep

Junior Member
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a few more pics

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jsherratt831

Junior Member
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15
Location
monterey Califonia
usually it is the drive train parts to go or a bearing. I put red lock tite and a fender washer on the outside to run the stock wheels. It seems that the XT -truck stays together longer, maybe cause of the extra cusion of the bigger tires and lower gear ratio. No doubt these cars need to be completely taken apart and reassembled corectly (ie lock-tite, shims, better bearings etc.)
 

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